Im sorry your son didnt have a worthwhile experience, but I appreciate you sharing it here. Id love to hear from anyone who has sent their elementary age child. However, if you really arent sure that you want them to spend the money, contact your local hospital(s). Im glad the program is legit, and Im glad its being held where we can drive in couple hours and drop her off. The packet mt daughter got says it does not include flight and there will be someone at a certsin airport to pick students up from 1-4. Last summer my daughter had finished 8th grade and was getting ready to enter high school. I didnt go for that very reason. Thats what Im going to try do. I got nominated for the NYLF: National security and I was wondering if it scam? I am in ninth grade and got an A+ in my business class. Megan. You can attain either through scholarships or grants, both of which do not require you to pay back. I have a son who is 11 and I would NOT send his to one of these programs at his age. Being 11 years old were a little skeptical of it. I was just wondering if you know of any less expensive options for leadership/extracurriculars woth more prestige. It says its partners with College Board, Wells Fargo, Jack Kent Cookie Foundation, American Indian College Fund, etc. Still, the BBB rating doesnt seem to reflect the user comments on the site (https://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-eastern-pa/business-reviews/lecture-and-seminar-bureaus/envision-emi-in-washington-dc-7001305/reviews-and-complaints). Is that only for the medical program? I have taught high school for over 10 years and during that time have nominated several students, some have attended the event. Megan, Very true, Diana. Megan, I recently went to the prpgram in San Francisco. Is there anyway theres a better payment plan than the one they offer?? Partner Supporter Our Programs San Francisco 6 Marin 6 San Mateo 10 Merced 5 Fresno 18 Eastern Coachella Valley 3 Long Beach 8 Statewide 5 Madera 4 0 Upcoming Events Featured Stories Exploring The Real Creator of Hispanic Heritage Month One Year After His Death My son unfortunately has been receiving their brochures every year. If your parents watched you play doctor as a little girl, and listened to you talk about how great it would be to help people by going into medicine, then when this invitation came in the mail, I imagine they decided to make it happen, no matter what they had to do to pull it off. I have signed my son up to go to one this Summer. AND MAKE SURE YOU NETWORK!! Youth Leadership Institute (YLI) The deadline to submit your YLI 2023 application is on Friday, February 24, 2023, 5:00 PM Pacific Time (PT). Did you take the SAT? Youth Consortium is a diverse, youth-led group focused on civic engagement and leadership. My wife and I are unsure if we should try to come up with the money to send him. Marcus, as a useful website for easy access and guidance to scholarships. Is National Youth Leadership Forum legit? No it doesnt. I dont think its about feeling special at all. Again, that does not mean Envision Experience, Envision, EMI, or the National Youth Leadership Forum are a "scam." I think it would be more accurate to describe what Envision Experience offers as very expensive, possibly under-delivering camp experiences for people who really want their kids to succeed but may not realize that there is no . The National Youth Leadership Forum markets itself as a program exclusively for top students. Try searching for summer programs for students at some of the state universities in your area. and our The application workshop dove into what is most important in college applications in comparison to what isnt, how to build a resume, and how to find the college best fit for you. Were going to talk with our son about it this weekend to see if hes interested. Personally, I like to see students participate in programs that also enhance their knowledge of the college experience and/ or show their own creativity and willingness to develop their interests independent of an organized program. Just so you understand the nomination processteachers, counselors, and deans are sent nomination forms. The Truth Behind "Exclusive" Summer Leadership Programs. I attended it in middle school. Being open to all students is fine, of course, but the problem is that the company sells the camps as a special honor to the best students, implying that not everyone can get in or will be selected. Overview IEL connects and mobilizes a deep network, prepares and supports leaders as they grow their skills, and builds capacity for them to thrive. Can you start to volunteer at a local hospital? I do think there are other less expensive options that will provide extra enrichment and experience in the field. We chose to not do the residential camp due to her age. She said Id arrive in Chicago and a bus will be waiting with other students but I havent gotten an official ticket yet. Will he need to be nominated again to attend at an older age? My 10 year old also received a letter from NYLF. thanks!! By the description provided, we thought we ought to provide my son the opportunity. Im a sophomore in high school. . Id encourage you to save some money and find something less expensive. I dont have much background and I feel this would be a good experience for me. Heres what helped influence our decision. There are plenty of enrichment programs out there if you have the money. My 13 year old daughter was nominated by her teacher, as were several other kids in our charter schools middle school program. Unfortunately, the pandemic made this mission very difficult. But since it is too expensive, it is not. Megan. I was just nominated for the NYLF: Business Innovation 6 days to startup summer camp and I think it is a wonderful opportunity. He also read the brochure carefully, studied the various activities outlined, handed the paperwork back to me, nodded, and said, Yeah, Id pay money for that. I got one for medicine, but I want to be an ICU nurse, not a doctor. Do you think it is worth the investment for an 11 yr old to go to a program like this? I got a letter from NYLF for Law and CSI and I didnt know if it would be worth going or not, and I just wanted an opinion on whether or not I should go. Although he talks to my advisor, who is trying to help me pick a career and knows about my thoughts on the subject, it still seems kind of odd. However, I feel as if the marketing materials overstate the prestige. They will not be paying for any transportation to and from the campus although I believe they said they will have a shuttle pick them up from the airport. Maybe in a couple years you will feel ready to attend a week-long program held at a university, but dont feel like you need to go right now. Put succinctly, Envision EMI is very slick, very clever company with marginal ethics that has found a niche in capitalizing and exploiting on the close and trusting relationship between parents, students, and teachers. Yes, we did apply for a scholarship based on her grades and our financial needs. Do teachers get some kind of compensation if their nominees attend? One of my friends received a letter for medicine and I received one for advanced medicine and health care So I was just wondering is the advanced based on accademic performance and more competitive than the medicine program offered? It was a lot of marketingI was really excited as a high schooler when I was nominated but it really wasnt worth it. Has anyone gone to this program before or is it a scam? In order to calculate an accurate estimate to how much money a certain student needs for college, there is a basic equation, which is COA (Cost of Attendance) EFC (Expected Family Contribution)= Financial Need (the number you need to pay for college). They talk about programs like Crime Scene Investigation, programming a robot and something medical related. After a quick break, Ferguson introduced a new guest Natalia Zampini, a personal banker at Wells Fargo to take all the juniors in the room through the financial aid process of college. Its a bought-and-paid for program that doesnt give you a big gain on the admissions thing. First, National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) programs are legitimate. Hi Sam, Should I consider it? John, Is there worth? Bottom line, highly underwhelming. I just got a letter from NYLF: Engineering and Technology and I was extremely excited because I was just about to start researching camps. not to me, anyway You can start listening at 22:20 to hear me and my co-host, Gretchen Wegner, discuss the NYLF programs and the benefits and drawbacks. SHE WAS NOMINATED BY HER 4TH GRADE TEACHER AND THEN DISCOVERED SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE IN HER SCHOOL TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. We want you (our children) to have it easier than we did! Thank you! 2018 Young Leader's Summit by the Youth Leadership Consortium: Is it a scam. There is no need to invest money in these expensive programs as these when there are so many programs closer to home with excellent educational, leadership, and technology skills. Based on what youve heard and seen do you think its worth it? Students will have the opportunity to meet new people from all over the country and stay connected with them before and after the event. Im not sure how there policy for refunding or compensation workw either. They will also know that you arent turning down what might be an amazing experience only because of the cost. No, unfortunately. The students, ranging from freshmen to seniors with some eighth graders mixed in, were then divided by grade level and taken to different rooms for the two workshops about college information. The 2023 YLS will take place July 16-19, 2023, as part of the NCCEP/GEAR UP Annual Conference in San Francisco, California.. Weve had a lot of success with day programs run by local museums. However, you dont mention some of the other key problems with NYLF, so I wanted to note them here. The main difference between the two is that subsidized loans require the government to pay interest while a student is in school and unsubsidized loans have students pay the interest themselves. I was wondering, I didnt see a post from you after he attended. Once I got notice I was unsure, though she was dying to go. I wish to know if as a introductory to engineering would this be worth it? I hadnt heard from anyone in the engineering / technology program before; Ive heard mixed reviews about the law and medical programs. You might seek out opportunities in your area to become more involved in the field volunteering, speaking with people in your future career path and seeking their advice. @Seventeencarat kids that have an interest in any of the fields that are presented. Can you offer any feedback? I am always looking for ways to provide beneficial opportunities for students. Why Do Gilmore Girls Fans Opt to Rewatch the Show Every Fall Season? It doesnt seem worth the high cost. Your day starts around 7 and ends at 9 I believe. What is the difference between the medicine program and the advanced medicine and health care program? or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ Medicine is something I am very interested in doing and this seems like such an amazing opportunity to learn. I would absolutely love to go, but it is nearly $3,000, which with my parents divorcing, we cant afford. I AM A VERY PROUD GRANDMA OF A 10 YEAR OLD GRANDAUGHTER THAT JUST ARRIVED IN DENVER TODAY FOR HER WEEK WITH THE PROGRAM @PinkScholar12. This includes community service, extracurriculars and clubs. Hi Megan! What are the differences and which would be more beneficial? Perhaps this isnt really an appropriate question, but I must ask: Are there special incentives for local high schools for promoting this to students? NYLF programs are good, but they are not your only opportunity. This would be my daughters first time away for that long and not being with family. Hi Megan, Thanks. I agree. These programs benefit sophomores as well as juniors and seniors. I got in too, hope to see you there! I think you would be ready, but I agree about the cost. Megan. The multitude of other parents that got letters from his school also indicate teacher nominations that did not occur. I should add that we live within driving distance of Washington, D.C., where the seminar is held. I know that the organizations obtained my name from college board, and my teachers. Prepare & Support Appalachian Entrepreneurship Academy DC Advocacy Partners Education Policy Fellowship Program Ready to Achieve Mentoring Program Right Turn Career-Focused Youth Transition Initiative When I clicked on the scholarship link, it said in the near future. I am not interested in gaining prestige, just experience and a fun week filled with learning. If the former, fantastic, I wont have to hassle him about becoming more focused on the steps to take because hell be self-motivated. It sounds quite interesting and Im sure she would love it but $2000!? Megan. Opportunities will be there when you are a little older. (They never release your exact score.) I guess I will most likely be not attending. My child thoroughly enjoyed her experience with Envision and NYLF Medicine. Have here been good reviews from students that have gone? I recently received an email from YLC asking to apply for a free 5-day college-prepping summit for HS students at USC. The workshops were all dissimilar; each grade level got to learn from two different workshops. Heres a website with lots of California engineering camps to get you started: http://www.engineeringedu.com/store/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=19 Each of the six programs lasts a week or more. He did not realize how much it was. If you have particular universities in mind add the school name to your search. I, too, find the $2000 cost high, especially for a 4th grader. While attending the program, you will only need money for snacks, souvenirs, and other incidentals.. You can get a very similar experience just calling up a residency program in your local town and having your son/daughter shadow. Many list top students and send them back to National Youth Leadership Forum. Junior Gabriela Guevara from Franklin High School has not decided what she would like to major in yet, but is interested in psychology. Also, was wondering I got nominated and does everyone get one or is it an honor to be nominated? Will this summer program truly benefit my experience with law and will being a part of it look great on college applications? Ok, Im a bit confused I got on of these letters for the National Security Camp I believe. The organization does provide guiding principles for students to incorporate into their lives in their own unique way. They are asking for a tuition of $1,700, which sounds awfully high. the applications are due sometime in april, and you just have to outline your financial situation. Im always the first to be able to tell something is a scam and the amount of money my parents waste on me should not rise anymore, but the NYLF for Engineering (a career path I am not sure if I really find interest in anymore , but I circle on the SAT anyway) is in San Francisco and I would love to go there without parents even if its a scam. I think it was only so great because of the people I met there, though. My granddaughter attended NYLF:STEM in Fort Lauderdale, Florida last year. This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. Yes, it is not as special as they make it seem. NCCEP recommends that a representative from each GEAR UP grant be responsible for submitting one application for all students. An 8th grader mom from California. BUT, there are many other programs out there with similar activities and different costs. Megan. We live in a dying community where the gap between the haves and the have-nots is HUGE. Well, that comment didnt age well, did it? they do offer scholarships! National Youth Leadership Forum programs are one way to do this. If you're considering NYLF because you think it's prestigious, you'd be dead wrong. ANY comments about experiences with the Law program will be more than greatly appreciated. Id love to hear your sons thoughts once hes completed the program. I just dont want families to feel like it is the only option. Then a couple of days later one of my students pulled out a packet and showed it to me. It absolutely ticks me off because those 2000 dollars couldve been used for something else my poor family couldve liked lmao but seriously If your execting fun and games then this isnt the program for you. I AM ALSO A MOM OF THREE GROWN KIDS WHO ARE WELL EDUCATED AND NOW HAVE WODERFUL JOBS AND FINANCIAL SECURITY They targeted my 9 year old son through his teacher. It says a faculty member at my school nominated me, but Im not so sure Ive spoken to him once, so how would he know that I am planning on going into the military? Weve hit all the museums and spent $100s on books already. Dont waste your time or money on NYLF. Our goal at Envision by WorldStrides is to help students grow as people by developing independence, leadership, problem-solving skills, worldliness, and maturity. Id encourage you to google summer engineering programs for high school students. You can specify California or San Francisco and see what you find. You can call and ask. You have to pay tuition and transportation. Btw I am a tenth grade student at an academy, Im glad you had a great experience! Once you click there you can check out the FAQs too. I hope this has been of some help to you. Did you guys hear from them about that? Yes, it is a nice to recognize top students. Take your time and only consider a program if you think it is right for you. Anna Arutunian, Yearbook Section EditorDecember 9, 2019. Those principles include: Turn values, beliefs, and emotions into action Show generosity and honesty to others Demonstrate personal commitment Empower others Work together Maintain civility Think critically about societal issues We just dont have that kind of money. Hi Shannon, I was googling national youth leadership forums trying to figure out what I attended back when I was in high school and found this thread. Not to mention we live near Springfield Missouri and this is in Chicago, il. Go ahead and listen to our discussion of this on The College Prep Podcast. No single activity will impact admissions; colleges are looking at the big picture. But the oversell and false claims of selection taints it. Oh, and the low monthly payments range from 500 to 800 dollars a month. Im sure you can find other age appropriate activities for your daughter to do over the summer. However, if it doesn't present a financial burden to your family and there's a program that truly . My sons name was given, by his principal for the NYLF mailing list. She was able to experience college life. You might find something close to you that costs a fraction of the price. The YLS provides a high-quality, national-level interactive training experience and peer-to-peer learning opportunity focused on life, leadership and learning-to-learn skills for 9th-12th grade high school students who are currently participating . Hi! I honestly really would like the opportunity to attend to those, but dont know how it will be possible. Theyre very vague about the program but immediately asked for money which is a bit scary /: Samrina, I received this nice package too in the mail. Thank you for sharing! I would try looking for a hospital where you can volunteer or get an internship. The event was free and bilingual for all Hispanic families who spoke Spanish better than they did English. Id encourage you to look for a variety of opportunities. You are completely right. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Id love to hear your feedback now that your daughter has attended. I still might go, just to figure out if medicine is a field I really want to go into. Ive always received the same email and found nothing about the program or if anyone else has attended. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Unfortunately, there isnt a clear answer. How nice of them to solicit nominations, but not mention the cost. This is a nice program, but it isnt going to set you apart more than any other summer program / camp. The last 3 days will be you most enjoyable days, because of the trips and the party. So, yes, the letters are more marketing than exclusive honor. We stayed on a campus at Berkeley. They called me and confirmed information and the lady asked about name, birthday, address, etc. Junior Aline Tran from Burbank High School personally recommends. Bonus if your not a paid spokesperson for this program because apparently those exist. After that conversation, I grew suspicious of the company intentions. Yeah, that's pretty close to what I had figured. Megan. Megan. Your email address will not be published. From everything Ive seen online it is a program better suited to high school students. Note that YLS is a 3.5-day, national training program that involves travel, overnight stays in a hotel, peer-to-peer learning, and various trainers and experiential learning. All students must be registered in order to participate. But then I did some research online and figured out its really just a glorified marketing campaign. Megan. Thank you!! (starts at about 22:20 minutes) Listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ As a single parent who has an 11 year old who was nominated, I am going to do everything in my will to get him there. I had the opporutunity to meet many great leaders as well as interact with my peers. Will he really benefit by going to this program? Maybe a good start for most people would be to get in contact with families on this list and ask them personally about their experience. I think that it would be a great experience for anyone who got nominated and is thinking about going. It sounds like a great experience. It was at San Francisco State, week-long, $2000 for the class, and over $1000 for a hotel (didnt want him in the dorms for a week). Theyre overprotective and i was wondering if someone could answer that question. Im in 4th grade and I just got a letter from the NYLF . I am really interested in attending the 2016 summer program, however, it is too expensive! The day ended with a raffle and an advertisement for the Youth Leadership Consortiums annual. The first is that anyone can nominate anyone to attend and there are no selection criteria for getting in, other than a parent writing a check. Id love to hear about your childs experience with the program. Hi! Please feel free to email me personally. I stayed with her in a hotel in Fort Lauderdale just minutes from the campus. It seems legit tbh because its soonsored by a lot of credible organizations- one being Uchicago. That really means a lot. It was a great experience both educationally and personally. Im thinking this is to young. Transportation varies by program, so please check on the details for your specific session. Megan. That is awesome of you and congrats! I also have a son who is a high school sophomore who is very interested in attending this forum. I was so excited for the robotics bit! I was kind of surprised and suspicious but I told my daughter if she wanted to participate in that program she needed to apply for the scholarship. Ive worked as a high school and independent counselor for years, so Im telling you what Ive observed from years of working with students and talking with college admissions officers. There are a few peculiar things about it, so I am curious if anyone here knows if it's legit or not. 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